Fic Thoughts

[metonomia]

So, guys, what if the Weeping Angels from Dr Who were in Narnia/came from Narnia?  Because, because...something happened and so they didn't actually get woken up when Aslan de-stonified everybody (maybe because they would be dead of old age by that point or something).  So basically Jadis magic-spawned a whole new race (they all turned human-women-looking and grew wings, yeah hello plot-hole, I see you), and that's why they're weeping, and they go around throwing people back in time because they wish they could go back in time themselves and not get stonified. Petrified. Whatever.
OR it's the remnants of Charn.  The Deplorable Word turned them all into psychopathic but nice killers with crazy time manipulation skillz.
Basically what I'm saying here is that I want the Doctor to cross paths with Narnia lots more.

Then, I'm writing Narnian (world) religious history, and for most of it I'm just making it up however I darn well please, because it's fun, but one thing I wanted to run by all y'all.  What do we think about the Lone Islands in terms of contact with Narnia during the Winter?  My vote is for isolation, because I want them to be incubating a basic Aslan-based religious culture whereas in Narnia during that time they add a bunch of gods/spirits because they need to pray for as much help as they can get, plus also the prophecies seem to say that Aslan has peaced-out until Adam's flesh and blood (holy henna, what if Aslan/the Emperor zapped Adam's literal flesh and blood onto those thrones? Ew.) arrives, and yeah.  But anywho, does it seem plausible that the Witch would have just left off at the shores of Narnia and not tried for the conquering of the islands?  Except, she calls herself Empress, I think...


*goes back to evaluating Geoffrey of Monmouth for literary vs historical value*

Comments

[metonomia.livejournal.com]

This is where I look around for rth and goad her on in writing Part 3 of TSG.

And where I say that I fluctuate in how I see Susan - on one hand, I see her having a Mission From Aslan that she has to fulfill b/c she's just the best at settling back into England and so he is using her talents, as one does. On the other hand, I see her legitimately forgetting/denying Narnia - but that doesn't make her evil/damned/stupid! A person can be nonreligious but good! A person can hurt their family and deny an important part of themselves but still live a full and worthwhile life! SUSANNNNNN.

[ilysia-039.livejournal.com]

rth!!! Write!!!

Ahem. Yes.

But Susan, really... I used to think that she might have truly abandoned Narnia, but then I became so invested in her character and grew to love her so much that I realized that, if she did abandon Narnia, she wouldn't be the Susan that I interpreted her as, if that makes sense.

Just my two cents.

[metonomia.livejournal.com]

OMG I SEE THAT UPDATE AND ISAMENE IS EOWYN!!! Sort of. More in review, which is coming.

Ahem.

I can totally see that, yeah; it's the interpretation I prefer even when I *can* see her turning away, because Susan! The Queen Susan as I see her and love her just wouldn't really become that stupid girl that so many tend to cast her off as.

[ilysia-039.livejournal.com]

YES. THANK YOU.

In the end, it's not so much the turning away I take issue with, I supposed, but the stupidity she supposedly displays.

Not MY SUSAN.

[rthstewart.livejournal.com]

And to think I was going to do conventional Susan for Part 3 (which was then Part 2 because there was no TQSiT). I'm obviously committed to my path and hopefully it will work. But, one of my anonymous reviewers to TSG Part 1 had said that a part of the problem with TLB is that how can it be heaven if Susan is not there? Because she was always the Big Sister! She could wear lipstick and be pretty and still be completely awesome too. Because little girls grow up to be women and there's a place in heaven for them too, isn't there? To which I say, yeah what she said. We were in chat (and really Ilysia, you must waste more time with us on NFFR chat and on Skype) and I got on my tear again about how Susan is always the victim who, if she is not damned, must prove herself through Herculean tasks or disfiguring disease. Or, she is in sexually ambiguous situations and raped 'cuz she totally deserves it, you know? I know that there is a realm of thought that to be cure and holy one must withdraw from the world. Yet, that is not the way I live nor the way I read the Gospels. Why can she not live in the world and still go to heaven? If she cannot, what does that mean for the rest of us? I plainly prefer the alternative -- Susan has chosen to stay, to live, and to contribute. And, as Animus says it so brilliantly, Susan just caught a later train because there were still things for her to do here.

[ilysia-039.livejournal.com]

Skinny thread! Difficult to reply to!

You write it, rth. I will read. And be awed.

That's just the thing with Susan. It's not the nylons and lipsticks and whatnot that I struggle with; it's her becoming a vain, vapid, foolish girl who can't think beyond the next party. Because so often that's the portrayal you see when Susan stays in England. Because you can live in the world and still be something more; it's not an all or nothing thing. (And part of this is vanity on my part, you understand. Consider this my declaration of: "Susan Pevensie! You will not become a vain and vapid girl after all the hard work I've put into making myself like you!" Vanity of vanities...)

I would love to waste time on Skype and in chat... alas. In the summer, it will be better. So I tell myself. Because I know that I'm missing out on these lovely conversations...

[metonomia.livejournal.com]

Yes. Amen to all of the above. (waaah, stupid sleep; I missed what sounds like a great chat tonight)